A formidable sound emanates from this delicate Our relationship began when we met on a movie I was directing that Joan and her husband, John, had written, Up Close and Personal. She would end her day by cutting out and editing prose, not reviewing the work until the following day. TuesdaySunday: 11 a.m.6 p.m. It would take a cold-eyed and curious outsider to diagnose her, the way Didion does the neglected hippie babies she encounters in her reportage, writing in The White Album of Betty Lansdown Fouquet, a 26-year-old woman with faded blond hair who put her five-year-old daughter out to die on the center divider of Interstate 5 some miles south of the last Bakersfield exit. When stuck or blocked she would put her manuscript on icenot a metaphor. [42], A Republican in her early years, Didion later drifted toward the Democratic Party, "without ever quite endorsing their core beliefs". Diane Arbus (American, 1923 1971) 1938) husband, pointed out that one testicle had escaped its confines. Let me tell you, it was gold, she says. [2] In 2005, Didion won the National Book Award for Nonfiction and was a finalist for both the National Book Critics Circle Award and the Pulitzer Prize for The Year of Magical Thinking, a memoir of the year following the death of her husband, writer John Gregory Dunne. treads lightly. Joan Didion was a friend. photographs that show Didion and members of the Dunne family in It was money on, money off, Kickstarter, and then when we did the Kickstarter campaign, we made a trailer and it was the trailer that went viral. (32.1 61.3 cm). were the only one that didnt laugh, Dunne tells Didion, who sits next Her items are on view there and you're able . Didion oscillates between laughter and stone-faced seriousness on camera, gesticulating wildly as she delivers her perfunctory answers to questions about her career, her family, and the sudden death of her husband, fellow writer John Gregory Dunne, in 2003, as well as the passing of their daughter, Quintana Roo, just two years later. Its not part of my world, she tells Griffin. But, she's a journalist and she knows I'm making a documentary so she expected me fully to ask, and I think would have lost respect for me if I didn't. "She and Dunne started doing that work with an eye to covering the bills, and then a little more", Nathan Heller reported in The New Yorker. Associated Press. NEW YORK (AP) The archives of the late Joan Didion and John Gregory Dunne, spanning from letters and wedding pictures to manuscripts and screenplay drafts, have . "I felt like I was torturing her, making her go through it, that was the hardest part," explains Dunne. But the downside was because I'm related and I know, I've watched, and felt as a family member what she went through. Hare used the opportunity, he tells Dunne, to insist She attended kindergarten and first grade, but because her father was a finance officer in the Army Air Corps and the family constantly relocated, she did not attend school regularly. emotions that any parent might feel after a childs deaththe guilt, the in her kitchen, where there is a television on the counter, like people Ana Mendieta (Cuban-American, 1948-1985) She later adapted the book into a play that premiered on Broadway in 2007. Like a ghost, Barron's Didion wandered through the empty space of an antiseptic box made of metal and sound-dampening glass that occupied the . Quintanas happy nature, rather than scrutinizing her daughters darker Joan Didion production still from The Center Will Not Hold. After graduation, Didion moved to New York and began working for Vogue, which led to her career as a journalist and writer.Didion published her first novel, Run River, in 1963.Didion's other novels include Play It As It Lays (1970), A Book of Common Prayer (1977), Democrac y (1984 . But she was just incredibly, for myself as kids and all of us growing up, she was a woman who just laughed a lot.". All rights reserved. 1960) I always loved you for that. Didions own memories The Center Will Not Hold conveys that air of stillness even in moments of action, as when we watch Didion painstakingly cut the crusts off an egg salad sandwich, silently glide through a Central Park garden, or visit a chapel to light a candle for her late daughter. I'm very happy with the moments that I am there. Harrison, Barbara Grizzutti (1980) "Joan Didion: Only Disconnect" in, We Tell Ourselves Stories in Order to Live, Medal for Distinguished Contribution to American Letters, We Tell Ourselves Stories in Order to Live: Collected Nonfiction, "From The Archive: Joan Didion On Hollywood, Her Personal Style & The Central Park 5", "George Lucas, Joan Didion to Receive White House Honors", "Joan Didion, 'New Journalist' Who Explored Culture and Chaos, Dies at 87", "James Didion Obituary (1939 - 2020) Monterey Herald", "Joan Didion, The Art of Nonfiction No. "The Light We Carry" is a performance worthy of a First Lady genuine, easy, intimate, but one which keeps the reader at arm's length, just far enough to stay real. Lost children haunt this film and the work and lives of the Didion-Dunnes. Digital image Whitney Museum of American Art / Licensed by Scala/ Art Resource, NY, Gelatin silver print. Jack Pierson (American, b. Didion doesnt "Didion was one of the . Worshipping Didion has always been a tricky business. Didion made a firea habit from their years in California, where . reporting to find hippiedoms youngest enrollees.) I kept hoping the love letter would address Quintana more directly. (40.6 50.8 cm). I couldnt in any way confront the death of my daughter for a long time, says Didion in voiceover. [16][10] Slouching Towards Bethlehem has been described as an example of New Journalism, using novel-like writing to cover the non-fiction realities of hippie counterculture. Let's talk about the packing list. 1973) student who has ever taken a course in literary nonfiction knows, Nine photographs, 16 20 in. used to have before the news came on their phones. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. There's a famous black-and-white photo shown toward the end of Griffin Dunne's documentary Joan Didion: The Center Will Not Hold. It was torture for me to ask her to relive Quintana and John's death. Hammer Museum, Los Angeles. So I said, 'How about letting me make a doc? But definitely you could win it. My senior year at Berkeley, I did win it. She moved to New York and worked at Vogue for seven years. [30] Didion wrote about Quintana's death in the 2011 book Blue Nights. Her writing during the 1960s through the late 1970s engaged audiences in the realities of . But what arranged with white petals proposed to sweaters in "sartorial representations of care and responsibility" as a gesture to anti-glamour. Dunne admits that it was emotionally challenging to ask her to relive these moments, and found it difficult to press her on tough topics. This, too, is gold, as Dunne recognizes. Frederick Law Olmsted (American, 1922-1903) and Calvert Vaux (English-American, 1824 - 1895) Magazine loose issue: ink on paper. journalistic quality, that of detachment. 1926) And I watched her watch this and I think it was quite an overwhelming experience for her seeing, basically, her whole life and all the footage that had been found and unearthed and all the work and everything that went into it from, not just my part, but all the people involved in it. meets Dunnes eye. [32], Knopf published Blue Nights in 2011. L.L.Bean - Up to 50% off. Major support is provided by Allison Gorsuch Corrigan and Wendy Stark and the Walske Charitable Foundation. I have to write this, and then I'm going to write that.' [10] In the title essay of The White Album, Didion documents a episode she experienced in the summer of 1968. During her seven years at Vogue, from 1956 to 1964, Didion worked her way up from promotional copywriter to associate feature editor. That essay consisted of a fragmentary rendering "Didion never forgot she was a Westerner," wrote Tracy Daugherty, in his 2015 biography of Didion, "The Last Love Song." "In the Sacramento Valley of her childhood, rattlesnakes were common. Steinbeck, Doris Lessing, Dante, Beatrix Potterand shows her puttering and had been mortified when John Gregory Dunne, his uncle and Didions She's not being coy or secretive. high-minded defense of her motivation, beyond that of writing the best And they talked every day, thank God they did. concerned with the losses that have characterized the last decade and a I didn't know until Shelley told me on camera that she put manuscripts in the freezer. writes. would get up, have a Coca-Cola, and start work, Didion says. 14 16 in. But when she tells me that, elaborating more I guess on your question, that makes perfect sense to me. [11][35] Didion's nephew Griffin Dunne directed a 2017 Netflix documentary about her, Joan Didion: The Center Will Not Hold. Biografia Joan Didion" Tracy'ego Daugherty'ego w tumaczeniu Kai Gucio, wydana przez nasze siostrzane wydawnictwo OsnoVa. But when it comes to exploring the complex range of There were odd vibrations, at that time, within most of my moods. When she answers something, much the way she does in her writing, she doesn't explain. But after moving to New York in 2008, she quickly realized that her status quo was at odds with the rest of the world. culminates with the writers encounter with a five-year-old girl, Susan, Joan Didion was born in Sacramento in 1934 and graduated from the University of California, Berkeley, in 1956. 1951) The Familial Furies of Noah Baumbachs The Meyerowitz Stories, Lillian Ross, a Pioneer of Literary Journalism, Has Died at Ninety-Nine, Her toneacutely observant, intimate, and very frequently amusedshaped. Here, Griffin Dunne opens up to BAZAAR.com about the making of the documentary, his biggest challenges, and what he learned about his aunt while filming. is that shes wearing white lipstick, Didion writes. could offer. 1970) (?) It was on a laptop in her dining room and I had two speakers and I said, 'I'm gonna hit this bar on the laptop, it'll stop at an hour and a half, so we can have a bathroom break or do whatever.' David Hare, who worked with her to bring her memoir of grief, The Year of Magical Thinking, to the stage, describes her as having "a horror of disorder". After undergoing psychiatric evaluation, she was diagnosed as having had an attack of vertigo and nausea. Dominique Nabokov (French) It's nothing she takes lightly.". Joan Didion: The Center Will Not Hold launches October 27 on Netflix. Joan Didion, Joan Didion: Essays & Conversations. Didion was born on December 5, 1934, in Sacramento, California,[4][5] to Eduene (ne Jerrett) and Frank Reese Didion. book written immediately after the sudden death of John Gregory Dunne, It's about a mother's regrets", "Joan Didion stars in Cline Spring/Summer 2015 campaign", "Review: A 'Joan Didion' Portrait, From an Intimate Source", "Joan Didion is more interesting than the new Netflix documentary about her", "Joan Didion's 'Let Me Tell You What I Mean' Offers Plenty Of 'Journalistic Gold', "Joan Didion: Disconnect". Ed Ruscha (American, b. Courtesy Galerie Lelong & Co. / Licensed by Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York, 68 x 44 cm., sheet 71 x 47 cm. The Didion-Dunnes were said to be concerned that Quintana, then 16 years old, might be called to testify, and left with her for Europe. In those days, people said that a magazine needed only to report the news and trends from New York City to succeed nationally, and part of the mystique of Didion for me was that she reversed the formula and told us . [7] She and Dunne married in 1964. "She's no 'Chatty Cathy' with a camera in her face. "The advantage of making this movie was that she let me, because I'm related. First prize, a job in Paris or New York. And immediately, they were on the morning calls. John Gregory Dunne and Griffins father, the author and Vanity Fair columnist Dominick Dunne, didnt speak for decades, due to (it was rumored) Didions coming over to her brother-in-laws place as the family awaited news of Dominique and tying up the phone line going over proofs with her editor in New York. the disparity between Didions physical fragilityDunnes camera lingers The Auctioneer Behind the $1.9 Million Joan Didion Sale Can't Believe Those Prices Either. what it was like, as a journalist, to be faced with a small child who Noah Purifoy (American, 1917-2004) Hughie Lee-Smith (American, 1915-1999) I got bumped, by the way. I wanted to get the hell out of there and get Sources say it may trace the paper's reporting on the Watergate scandal that led to the resignation of President Richard Nixon. "But that was sort of an aspect that was not enough about Joan. Dunnes intimate, affectionate, and partial portrait of his aunt Joan to him, beaming. [9][11] Mademoiselle published Didion's article that was entitled "Berkeleys Giant: The University of California" in January 1960. Roger Steffens (American, b. About Joan Didion. neck and fine gold hair framing her face, begins. . [29] Everyman's Library published We Tell Ourselves Stories in Order to Live, a 2006 compendium of much of Didion's writing, including the full content of her first seven published nonfiction books (Slouching Towards Bethlehem, The White Album, Salvador, Miami, After Henry, Political Fictions, and Where I Was From), with an introduction by her contemporary, the critic John Leonard. acid-dropping five-year-old, extends over half a page. Didion's other novels include A Book of Common Prayer . 1947) At the time, Baez was a deity of the folk . [17] She wrote from her personal perspective; adding her own feelings and memories to situations, inventing details and quotes to make the stories more vivid, and using many metaphors in order for the reader to get a better understanding of the disorder present in the subjects of her essays, whether they be politicians, artists, or the American society. The camera roves the books on Didions shelvesKurt Vonnegut, John You could win that and live in Paris. unfortunate but necessary phraseespecially to female writers of slight Thank god, and so she became a writer. [21], Dunne and Didion worked closely together for most of their careers. Didion finds Susan sitting on a It happened. "But she really likes the getting in the van and going to the next location and just the process of it, so I just sort of pushed my luck. [4][13] The couple wrote many newsstand-magazine assignments. And it was pretty much a one-word answer, 'Uh, okay.' moments like that, if youre doing a piece. Part 2 of the over you quotations list about betted and betting sayings citing Vince Lombardi, Arnold Haultain and Chris Corrigan captions. (She is eighty-two.) 24 x 24 x 6 in. She Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. [7] In 1988, Didion moved from California to New York City. Acclaimed memoirist and novelist Joan Didion has died at age 87. right quote is captured, or just the right metaphor is delivered to the In "A Trip to Xanadu" . In 1991, she wrote the earliest mainstream media article to suggest the Central Park Five had been wrongfully convicted. The Joan Didion who took amphetamines to work and bourbon to . November 10, 2022. literary production that preceded The Year of Magical Thinking, the Ad Choices. Alan Saret (American, b. Anne Truitt (American, 1921-2004) And actually, she had considered in high school being an actress. approach. tooIf I was a more dispassionate, regular documentarian, that would be Picture Joan Didion in or near a Corvette, smoking cigarettes elegantly, drinking bourbon casually, . Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. fingertips on the keyboard by whichever of the nine muses oversees the I think if she really didn't like it, I think that would become apparent.". ", "That was really important for me to get because that's who I grew up with. Opening less than a year after her death at age 87, and planned since 2019, Joan Didion: What She Means follows a meandering chronology that grapples with the simultaneously personal and distant evolution of Didions voice as a writer and pioneer of the New Journalism. The exhibition closely follows her life according to the places she called home and is laid out in chronological chaptersHoly Water: Sacramento, Berkeley (19341956); Goodbye to All That: New York (19561963); The White Album: California, Hawaii (19641988); and the final chapter, Sentimental Journeys: New York, Miami, San Salvador (19882021). As an undergraduate at Berkeley, she won an essay contest sponsored by Vogue magazine and was offered a job in the New York office of the magazine's publisher, Cond Nast. They are not stories she tells or disavows in The Year of Magical Thinking, or Blue Nights, or to Griffin, and so her fragile hauteur never cracks. Her 1987 nonfiction book entitled Miami looked at the different communities in that city. [5], Didion received a bachelor of arts degree in English from the University of California, Berkeley, in 1956. Joan Didion pictured with John Gregory Dunne, who died in 2003, and their daughter, Quintana Roo Dunne, who died a year and a half later. extent. [4] Writer and friend John Gregory Dunne helped her edit the book. Huntington Library Rare Maps Collection, Imitation gold metal leaf on salvaged Chicago brick. About a third of the way through The Center Will Not Hold, Griffin Photo: Gerard Vuilleumier, Oil on linen. Because even with something like Magical Thinking, she can write that book and say, 'I'm not ready to know how I feel about Quintana. Whether this strikes you as charming or affectedthe kind of thing someone playing a writer in a movie might dowill depend on how invested a Didion acolyte you are. Joan Didion was born on the 5th of December, 1934 in Sacramento, California and died on the 23rd of December, 2021 in New York City. Analysis Of Joan Didion's The Santa Ana Wind 767 Words | 4 Pages. T here is that famous photo of Joan Didion, taken in Malibu in 1976, in which she leans on a deck overlooking the beach, cigarette in hand, scotch glass at her elbow, and regards her family . "Choosing what pieces of hers to focus on was sort of up to me. down to dinner. Neither John nor Joan would submit an article without the other looking it over. J.Crew Factory - 50% off everything; extra 50% off clearance. Irving Penn (American, 1917 2009) unwillingness to couple its empathy with the opposite necessary The one adjective continually invoked of her writerly persona and her . You live for moments like that, if youre doing a piece. Didion, which premires on Netflix this week, a riveting moment occurs. Joan Didion, the storied author and New Journalism icon best known for books like Play It as It Lays, The White Album, and The Year . Restaurant Hours First published in 1979, Joan Didion's The White Album records indelibly the upheavals and aftermaths of the 1960s. It goes on. And John was hilarious and he'd make most of the jokes, but she did most of the laughing. My role in her life is apparent. I realized that no film documentary had been made about her, by her choice. In one year, Didion's daughter fell into a coma and her husband of 40 years had a fatal heart attack. It was a three-hour cut and, you can imagine, very different than this. For much of the documentary, Didion sits in her sumptuous living room on East 71st Street, Tiffany lamp aglow like a subway globe, fireplace lively with burning logs (no tacky gas flame here), answering her nephew Griffin Dunnes mostly softball questions with her signature mix of succinct candor and graceful evasion. memoir of marriage and bereavement that, when it was published, in 2005, Joan Didion: What She Means is organized by Hilton Als in collaboration with Connie Butler, chief curator, and Ikechukwu Onyewuenyi, curatorial assistant. Is Griffins decision not to press her on this point an example of his tact or a dereliction of his duty as a documentarian? Joan Didion, The Year of Magical Thinking. Joan Didion in 1981 Janet Fries/Getty Images. instrument. which is firm and strong. The Center Will Not Hold is worth watching for that moment alone. children and predatory grownups, framed by Didions elegiac, magisterial Joan Didion, who passed away on December 23, 2021, wrote her award-winning, unforgettable 2005 memoir, "The Year of Magical Thinking," after her husband of 40 years, fellow writer John Dunne, died . Helen Lundeberg (American, 1908-1999) summation of a civilization gone off its rails: Adolescents drifted I can't stand this. score: 1 of 18 (4%) required scores: 1, 3, 5, 8, 11 list stats leaders vote Vote print comments. Joan Didion was a working writer, notes David Ulin, editor of her Library of America editions. Breaking a long-held silence on Didion, whose work he championed and found publishers for, Parmentel was interviewed for a 1996 article in New York magazine. Kristi Cavett Jones (American) The next year, she published the novel Democracy, the story of a long, but unrequited love affair between a wealthy heiress and an older man, a CIA officer, against the background of the Cold War and the Vietnam War. Betye Saar (American, b. Joan Didion (/ d d i n /; December 5, 1934 - December 23, 2021) was an American writer.She is considered one of the pioneers of New Journalism along with Gay Talese, Hunter S. Thompson, and Tom Wolfe.Didion's career began in the 1950s after she won an essay contest sponsored by Vogue magazine. And she has this reputation when critics would be writing about Slouching Towards Bethlehem and White Album, that she was the mistress of doom, all this. [36], Didion discusses her writing and personal life, including the deaths of her husband and daughter, adding context to her books The Year of Magical Thinking and Blue Nights. was tripping. 1937) On hearing this, Didion tries to ask a follow-up question: do any of In one early moment, Dunne tells Didion that he remembers one who had entrusted him with her story after allowing no others to Richard Avedon (American, 1923 2004) (Inset) Joan Didion; Kitty Webb and Al Pacino in "The Panic in Needle Park" (Getty Images; Twentieth Century Fox) Having just produced the film . from city to torn city, sloughing off both the past and the future as But I noticed from the time I read that all through the course of her books, when I would see in her character something that she had been talking about all this time, but I would actually see it up front, which is I could see where she was from. Georgia OKeeffe Museum. September 22, 2020. In 1966, they adopted a daughter, whom they named Quintana Roo Dunne. [39] According to Didion's husband, John Gregory Dunne, they met through Parmentel and were friends for six years before embarking on a romantic relationship. Joan Didion, masterful essayist, novelist and screenwriter, dies at 87. Barbara Bloom (American, b. Susans classmates also get stoned? Its antecedents include Plutarch's consolations, Kenko's "Essays in Idleness," Jorge Luis Borges' lectures, Virginia Woolf's reveries, the "nonfiction novels" of Truman Capote and Norman Mailer, the "new journalism" of Joan Didion, Tom Wolfe, and Gay Talese. the National Medal of Arts, in 2013, holds her antique hands with a Dunne asks Didion reading a comic book and licking her lips, and he looks away. 0:00. I wanted to know if I was sort of in the right direction. 18 views made by Halinkadrzwi. [37], In 2021, Didion published Let Me Tell You What I Mean, a collection of 12 essays she wrote between 1968 and 2000. Joan Didion was a journalist, novelist, memoirist, essayist, and screenwriter who wrote some of the sharpest and most evocative analyses of culture, politics, literature, family, and loss. Pat Steir. You could win that, my mother said. John Ford (American, 1894-1973) [47] In 2011, New York magazine reported that the Harrison criticism "still gets her (Didion's) hackles up, decades later".[48]. in widowhood. One of the bigger challenges was really defining my role. Published by Knopf in October 2005, The Year of Magical Thinking was immediately acclaimed as a classic book about mourning. 16 20 in. Both her and John included me in their social gatherings ever since, and influenced so much of the way I see the world, and how I watch movies, and how I read. ", "Some things were really, really difficult for me to ask her about. The Andy Warhol Museum, Pittsburgh, PA, a museum of Carnegie Institute, Found-object assemblage. 2347 likes. There have been moments that she's written about where the center does not hold, will not hold, which is a slight variation of what Yeats had said in his poem [The Second Coming]. now learn the games that had held the society together. It was the work build, neurasthenic temperament, and literary aspiration. 7 89 358 in. She's very comfortable with silence, and I learned to be comfortable in her silences. cousin) Annabelle Dunne, offers many other pleasures and insights, too. [7][22], Didion's book-length essay entitled Salvador (1983) was written after a two-week trip to El Salvador with her husband. Milton Avery (American, 1885-1965) Although Didion was hesitant to write for the theater, eventually she found the genre that was new to her, quite exciting. I And she's seen every cut since.". 1939) For the album's fiftieth anniversary, National Public Radio's Morning Edition invited him to psychoanalyze it on-air.. "Themes of madness and alienation permeate the record," he says, making reference to the story . And I could tell I was on the right track. We'd go through years and she wouldn't even ask about it many of the times. avg. The couple moved to Los Angeles, where they enjoyed . Brigitte Lacombe (French, b. for the past year, her mother has given her peyote and acid. Courtesy the Estate of Ana Mendieta Collection LLC and Galeries Lelong & Co., New York. Przy tej okazji na amach Vogue Polska" ogosilimy konkurs literacki dla czytelniczek i . Quintana's death was not sudden. In pictures, Quintana is a startlingly beautiful child with long blond hair, big blue eyes, and golden sun-kissed skin. A mohair throw. 1947) half of Didions long life. By Olivia Fleming Published: Oct 24, 2017. Przedstawiamy laureatw. When she died on Thursday at the age of 87, this list, which she kept taped to her closet door, came up a lot both in reverence and with an . In the early nineteen-sixties, while on . granted her a vast, popular success. Every product on this page was chosen by a Harper's BAZAAR editor. William Eggleston (American, b. Photo: Ian Reeves. Cond Nast Archive. Like. So, that's why it took six years. Joan Didion's memorial service in Manhattan was attended by Anjelica Huston, Annie Leibovitz, Fran Leibowitz, Patti Smith, Vanessa Redgrave Liam Neeson, Greta Gerwig and more. One can feel ambivalent about Didion the stylist while nurturing an interest in, even an affection for, Didion the cult figure. The 82-year-old literary icon is famous for answering questions with the same brevity as her work, sometimes in just two or three words, but it is this "hand ballet," as Dunne describes it, that sticks with me after the credits roll on his new Netflix documentary about her life, Joan Didion: The Center Will Not Hold. Kim Fisher (American, b. In The describes it as getting stoned, Didion writes. Arthritis has gnarled her hands, causing her to gesture knuckle-first. In 1966, Didion profiled Joan Baez for the New York Times (the piece, "Where the Kissing Never Stops," was reprinted in Slouching Toward Bethlehem). viewers stand-in is President Obama, who, after bestowing upon Didion Thomas message is to inform the audience that Santa Ana winds are not as dangerous as many believe. . Bill Owens (American, b. Edition of 10 with 3 AP. 1976) "You can see it in the early interviews, I just see smaller versions of it. "[40] Didion and Dunne subsequently married, in January 1964, and remained husband and wife until his death from a heart attack suffered in 2003. On the evening of December 30, 2003, Joan Didion and her husband, John Gregory Dunne, decided to stay in. At the end of the day, she would take a break from writing to remove herself from the "pages",[45] saying that without the distance, she could not make proper edits. Jan stopped the action and called from the back of the house to Mia Barron, the voice of Joan Didion's narrator (and also Jan's partner). 18 1/2 x 36 3/4 x 10 1/2 inches (47 x 93.3 x 26.7 cm). 1940) just see the child and move onrather, she interviews her. Susan tells Collection of Mary Patricia Anderson Pence. That was just a sort of a tangent that used to be in the film.