Phils response is certainly not biblical and nowhere close to being christian. With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake in the present, but infinitely more. The Bible is explicit in what qualities and qualifications a preacher must have. Plumbing the depths of divine mercy in Ephesians 1, we will strive to better understand Gods unfolding plan of redemption and our place in it, helping us live each day to the praise of His glorious grace. Your joys, pains, sacrifices, and triumphs last for a moment before disappearing forev If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. . Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! David Grey continued from jail to manipulate others in Grace Community Church to his benefit despite his criminal conviction. What is the future of reformed theology? September 24, 2021 - September 25, . [16:30 21m], Q6. It is not fair to assume that we know that for sure at this time. I know this from personal experience. Whatever Elders do at GCC, it is somehow distinct from Leadership. The Roys Report has repeatedly sought comment from MacArthur and GCC about the incidents involving David Gray and his wife. I say, keep workin and knock yourselves out. I believe this has nothing to do with the above mentioned ministries rather than the Church of Jesus Christ being directly attacked by those who hate God, hate truth, hate the Gospel and know that the ideas of the Judeo Christian world view stands alone preventing the evil one from destroying the The true Church of Jesus Christ and the salvation of many. I perceive that you are have been indoctrinated with a form of very unhealthy tribalism that is contrary to fundamental kingdom values. Please let us know at info@calvinistcadets.org! . May God bless all his children as we all seek his face! MacArthur does not know the verse, it says: Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord and so bring wrath on yourself from the Lord? (2 Chronicles 19:2). You realize that he and the whole of GCC have been supporting him since 2001, right? It has NO PLACE in the church or anywhere else. CITs: $50 for training + $80 / Week Base Rate. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. The examples you use in scripture do not support or justify how you do your reporting. Even when there is an opportunity to fess up and give a truthful explanation as to why MacArthur will not be able to attend a scheduled event, they/he still gives excuses. beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks by those who hate God. What king of elder board would throw her out and keep him knowing this? Who are you that you think he owes anybody repentance except for Christ himself. May the consequences of his actions draw him closer to the Lord in full repentance and even thank God that he was stopped. Julie simply reported what John and GCC did to Eileen. I believe he is in his 80s now. The real gospel says its not about what we do for christ, its about what he did for us. Ligonier Conference Series with J. Ligon Duncan The Invisible Church Discovering Deuteronomy Learn More Renewing Your Mind Minute with R.C. Best $ Off Code. [9] Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. Julie Roys is truly exposing the true lies from John MacArthur and his associates at the Grace Community Church. He admitted to often being nude with his daughter. Stream for Free: Right Now Counts Forever Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. And he also lied and said that he was sick, when clearly he wasnt, because he went golfing. But nothing, not even a public apology. 13:8). The church discipline was the result of David Greys successful manipulation of well intentioned God fearing men at Grace. Ligonier Ministries helped me become confessionally Reformed and love our historic Christian faith! We as men of Christ know how the devil will use media in an attempt to strip John MacArthur of everything he has done in total comittance in his life long dedicated life in our Holy Triune God, through the seminary, as well as Grace church. Lone-pastor/senior-pastors surrounded by subordinates are less likely to receive guidance like what is offered now before the blunder is made and the damage is done. Must a person forsake his sins to come to Christ? If John MacArthur sins or if I do, its nobodys business except for Christ alone. Pastor Heiland, there doesnt seem to be any reason to expect that being a great expositor or preacher or public speaker would overlap with being a good pastor. Lets stop the apologist nonsense for this behavior. Live from Pittsburgh, watch our t. He is very prideful, if he was truly humble he would apologise to the woman, that he shamed. The result is that they become Satans buddies, by being in and of the world to the point that they believe whatever they want to believe, distorting Christs character, which might well be known to them rather than being ignorant of it, and they develop a denial based cult like mentality, which becomes pride-filled, disrespectful of the law, macho and deeply conservative above and beyond being Christlike. A Conservative Christian Elder Board, to be most precise. Sproul Trusting God The Westminster Shorter Catechism with Sinclair Ferguson Question & Answer 95 Valley Of Vision The Personal Touch Ask RC Church and the Culture Show Me Your Glory Learn More Music Sinclair Ferguson, W. Robert Godfrey, Joel Kim, Steven Lawson, John MacArthur . June 29, 2021 at 6:46 am . On March 8, The Roys Report published an expos with exclusive video showing that MacArthur shamed and excommunicated the wife of child abuser, David Gray, for refusing to take Gray back into her home. Sitting at the table of fools seems to be a mainstay at GCC. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. So Jesus is not allowed to call anyone a white-washed tomb which in todays lingo could be translated as a white-washed septic tank? We can even create the scene in our minds eye. on Q&A from Ligonier Conference 2021, Right Now Counts Forever, Day 3, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Man-Centered spirituality (modern false gospel, etc. I would be ill too. There is a question of whos work? The Ligonier Ministries site requires Javascript, but youve got Javascript disabled. (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. I love him and his great skills as an Expositor, and I respect him for that, but he needs to come clean on these matters. And that it doesnt cost us anything, its a GIFT FREELY received by those who BELIEVE. Adjectives must be preserved, even at the expensive of following Christs word to the letter. Yes, he is too accountable. Since the Lord does not change in turbulent times, we must live courageously and without compromise for His eternal truth. You are just Christian or you are not. Sproul" and "exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible." Learn more: https://www.ligonier.org/about/ The conference theme was "Right Now Counts Forever." Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. NO ADS! I know I am saved by Grace alone. It was a 3-day conference. Gods got this! Since no one else shares the same title of Pastor/ Teacher as John there, it is prudent to conclude that John MacArthur is without equal at GCC and functions as the de facto senior pastor. A misogynistic Elder board, thats what kind. The leadership always sides with the predator. How can one grow in the fear of God and decrease in the fear of man? Trust God and pray for the truth to be known at any and all costs. The 3-minute video of John MacArthur himself introducing the subject and pronouncing judgment upon Eileen with all comment closed off by the immediate serving of communion with singing is sufficient knowledge of the story to know that is not the Bible way to handle the situation of a woman separating from her husband. Records and eyewitnesses revealed that GCC told congregants that Gray was innocent and blamed his convictions on his ex-wife. Tim Sykes who gives you the ability to believe. **Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge anothers servant? To his own master he stands or falls. 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. Do you know of a conference or similar gathering where Cadets should exhibit or promote our ministry? I think Roys report did a pretty precise job of explaining the situationyou could always talk to David Gray, who is STILL LOCKED UP AND PAROLE DENIED!!!! I hope and pray that the horrific treatment by JM and his henchman to this lady and her children did not break their faith. But based on my experience of attending a n umber of churches I have found that GCC and John MacArthur are the real deal and at no time have I ever heard him preach any sermon that wasnt 100% scriptual. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. As R.C. Hi. All his friends will be asked their opinions about this putting them on the spot to address what John should have addressed but was too prideful to do so. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. At age 20, Eileen known to many by her previous, Hohn Cho, a lawyer and former elder at John MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC), accused the influential California megachurch of awful patterns. These Elders need to repent, seek forgiveness and exonerate this dear woman her children. Ligoniers Teaching Fellows and other ministry leaders serve as your guides as you explore these important sites. The man may legit be Ill! John has always followed scripture with law & gospel. Sproul's new book. Is the doctrine of election a primary doctrine? Ligonier Ministries 421 Ligonier Ct Sanford, FL 32771 Telephone Number: +1 (800) 435-4343 Email Address: info@ligonier.org. Quit picking on these guys! I understand this is an extreme example, but hopefully you see the problem here. The work being done by Julie, along with that of Warren Cole Smith and others, is aimed at an appropriate level of accountability, as well as showing the world that we Christians do expect better from our leaders. Yeah Julie. But nothing brings a person or an event to life like being there. Ligonier Camp and Conference Center is a Christian outdoor adventure summer camp and retreat center located in the beautiful Laurel Highlands of western Pennsylvania. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. Is this man so far above everyone that he must be protected and given such a level of loyalty that he cannot be perceived as even being capable of making a mistake? So many write to us every week to share how the Lord has used Dr. R.C. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. I do not have any other details and would encourage you to reach out to Dr. MacArthurs office. We are CALLED and COMMANDED to expose those in the church are engaged in dishonorable and sinful activities as John MacArthur routinely does. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? The cancellation comes after revelations that MacArthur had apparently promoted a convicted child abuser and shamed the abusers wife. This is why the CCC sends representatives to conferences like this one. We are encouraged by scripture to believe the best, to assume someone is telling the truth unless its proven otherwise. Ligonier Ministries is the teaching fellowship of R.C. Grace even helped Gray launch and run a ministry in the prison, called Grace Prison Fellowship. It is despicable. If you cannot hold a pastor/teacher accountable here, and call him to repentance, when can you? So, generally speaking, this is what Ive come to expect from this site. Thats why these thing matter in his case. John MacArthur, however, is a constant at the top of both groups. Christians will not find strength to face the challenges of today by looking to novel ideas Rather than a mere relic of the past, the Reformation is our future. On March 18-20, 2021, Ligonier Ministries hosted its 2021 National Conference, celebrating fifty years since the ministry's founding. Jesus is Lord. There wasnt just one incident of acting horrible and then it was over. I will point out that there is a higher standard for those who are in ministry. However, we then discovered a post on Facebook post indicating MacArthur was cancelling a speaking engagement at Calvary Baptist Church in Dothan, Alabama, due to health issues. Unless they presume to be sinless, why wouldnt they simply humbly graciously admit to the wrong they did and ask for forgiveness ? Now we have law enforcement to handle the criminal elements. And this is a pattern for him. Here we go again. Disappointing. For someone who believe that their action were right and just, they sure dont seem to be very forthcoming with an explanation. Of course it is. There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. You may as well say to a Christian policeman that he cant arrest anyone, in case the suspect turns out that they are Christian or claims to be. We hope that we were able to plant seeds of interest that will grow into meaningful connections and more Cadet clubs. John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. ; Dan Bonville. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. Sprouls Life and Ministry, Panel Discussion: Preaching and Pastoral Ministry, Panel Discussion: Discipling the Next Generation, Interview: The Necessity of Reforming the Church, Interview: The Institute for Expository Preaching, Stream for Free: Right Now Counts Forever. How is this what you are doing??? Tom Gardiana, folks have been looking for MacArthurs repentance, but it is yet to be found. It seems that you do. Ligonier Tours brings the past to life, they serve to encourage us as disciples in our own day, and they offer us reminders that we are not alone, but that we are on our pilgrim journey together. Be sure your sin will find you out. (Numbers 32:23) Every leader needs a Nathan. I pray that the only intention of The Roys Report is to call for accountability among Christian leaders. This article was shared on Facebook 1.1K times, so clearly many agree with its newsworthiness. For nearly 40 years, Johns teaching helped me become a faithful Christian in every respect. Now is our time to stand with unrelenting devotion to Gods unchanging Word. A good man obtains favor from the Lord, but a man of wicked intentions He will condemn. (Proverbs 12:2) I no longer support John MacArthur because his intentions seem to have shifted from revealing Gods will, to using his platform to conform others to his will. Our culture may suggest that nothing is of lasting significance, but as Christians, we know that God is at work all the time, now and forever, and so we must continue our work to spread and strengthen not only Cadets but Gods Kingdom. Grace is the higher law here, especially amongst believers. Its scary to repent of your past but know that someone could dig it up easily. Don't forgettomorrow is the last Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. Julie Roys alluding that it may be otherwise doesnt make it fact. Ephesians 5:11-13 says Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 2. You have to realize at some point that God is in this grand illumination of corruption in the American Christian big business machine so HE can be truly honored and glorified. Julie, I know you believe it is right, but all the scriptures you use to justify your type of reporting is not in context with the scriptures. 2023 National Conference | Ligonier Ministries Events These same people attend listen, serve, grow and giveWe have pro-life and pro-choiceAnd in the midst of all of this, we have one of the most beautiful worship experiences you can possibly imagine. Viewarticle, Research: Progressive (Social Justice) Christianity, CRNs homepage contains a list of professing Christians to mark and avoid (Rom 16:17-18). So, Im assuming he really isnt well, and it seems cynical to think otherwise. Nowhere do we see any of the apostles confront each other in front of the secular world. He should be held to the same standards to which he holds everyone else. [21m 38:30], Q7. These mega churches do not function biblically because its too cumbersome. Relay Worship Conference Bowling Green, Kentucky February 18, 2023 Relay Worship Conference Worship Northwest Keizer, Oregon February 23 - 25, 2023 Worship Northwest Angeles Worship Summit Azusa, California February 25, 2023 Angeles Worship Summit Prophetic Worship Summit Austin, Texas March 3 - 5, 2023 Prophetic Worship Summit I never knew who he voted for, but now Im told Im not even a Christian if I didnt vote the way he wanted me to. Together, we commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, celebrated the ministry of our founder and first president, Dr. R.C. JM, even though hes got poor taste in watches (understated is best: Patek Phillippe Calatrava, for instance, can be had quite cheaply), he is not a leader and should tell his congregation so: he is a servant of the church, as are we all. Point blank, period, end of discussion. Registration Learn More Resource Library All Resources G3 Clips The Heart Is Deceitful above All Things Phil Johnson G3 Clips Passing on the Importance of Historic Church Leaders James White G3 Clips The Inspiration of Scripture How strange in this case the government got it right, and the Elders leading the local church got it wrong. Amen. Its at the expense of John Mac Arthurs life long work as well. Hey, Ive sinned too! So your saying some of your past sins are protecting pedophiles and wife beaters and youve covered up people that committed those crimes? The same message can now be disregarded, played down, ignored, criticised. You know, it is certainly possible that he is indeed sick. MacArthur CLEARLY verbally attacked the people protesting the nazis at Charlottesville but totally mitigated and exonerated the nazis and alt right white nationalists who murdered Heather Hyer. Enjoy these highlights. We have transgender, LGBTQ, straight, single, married, divorced and cohabitating people. The Apostle James provides some of Scriptures clearest guidance on how Christians should both hear what God has revealed and do what His Word commands. His character must be exemplary. God Bless. Sproul and Ligonier in their lives. Not before an unbelieving world 20 yrs later. Jesus made the pattern very clear. Over the last ten years, listeners of Renewing Your Mind have been greeted each day by the friendly voice of Lee Webb. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. This story will not go away. A premiere summer camp with excellent adventure and outdoor education nestled in the heart of the Laurel Highlands of Western Pennsylvania. The traditionally conservative and Gospel-centered organization is called Ligonier because it was founded in Ligonier Valley, Pennsylvania in 1971 and it publishes the popular Table Talk Magazine, which is edited by Burk Parsons. [0 7m]. These allegations dont detract from his work in the slightest. It means that these believers use The Bible to align with their views and prejudices, which takes precedence; they dont deny themselves to follow Christ. Nearly everyone who stopped by the Cadet exhibit was excited to learn that Cadets is at work in the lives of boys and men around the world. GHH, John Mac Arthur is a great expositor but he failed at being a good Pastor in this case.. To assume he is simply offering an excuse is jumping to conclusions and is not fair. And bigger picture, how many in authority operate. To shame and reject an abused wife and her abused children is reprehensible behavior and it is especially so when the one doing the shaming is an influential church leader. Ding!) Say something I dont agree with spirituality, sure lets go to the elders. However, a church where MacArthur also was slated to speak in March has stated MacArthur is cancelling its engagement due to family health issues.. / Socialism / Communism, Satan; Slanderer; Devil; Liar; Serpent; Dragon, Covenant Theology Overview by Pastor Patrick Hines [Salvation and Eschatology, Part 7, Conclusion], Covenant Theology Overview by Pastor Patrick Hines [Salvation and Eschatology, Part 7, Conclusion] sheeplywolves. The child molester has learned the language and the customs of the church and has figured out the logic and the value system and theology of the elders. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? You do know that John MacArthur is in his 80s. On these tours, youll have time with these trusted teachers over a meal or at the sites along the journey. Did you assume you were being told the truth about resting for the conference when he had covid? What is the Westminster Confession of Faith? He many have had to cancel because he is not well, just as he said. I do, however, agree that a 1 Corinthians 5 situation is to be handled by the entire congregation that are led to consensus by their elders. August 2021 View Issue The History of Ligonier Ministries by Stephen J. Nichols Last Things Etched on a granite memorial in Point State Park in Pittsburgh are the words "A Place of International Consequence." This place, Three Rivers, played a pivotal role in the Colonial era. Q5. If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. These men took 9 questions which are noted below. College-Age Positions: $100 for Training + $285 / Week Base Rate. Sproul, and considered the calling of every . Interested in joining the Ligonier team? While MacArthur withdrew, for whatever reasons those were, many prominent speakers remain such as Steven Lawson, Sinclair Ferguson, Robert Godfrey, Stephen Nichols, Burk Parsons, Derek Thomas, and Michael Reeves, amongst others. Guilty by association. Any public rebuke was done in front of believers and were written to believers. B/c something is reported or judged, doesnt mean its fact. Like my Facebook Page: @KuiperBelt117 or https://www.facebook.com/KuiperBelt117 Follow me on Twitter: @KuiperBelt117 or https://twitter.com/KuiperBelt117Email me at: KuiperBeltProductions1@gmail.com All footage was shot with a Sony Aiii Camera. What does that mean in the church? The local church which consists of the members must be the authority under the Headship Christ to excommunicate a member found guilty and unrepentant. If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. Knowing all that has been done for us in union with Christ, we can more clearly see how the gospel informs every aspect of our lives, directing us to serve the Lord faithfully today. No one really knows FACTS. The scripture tells us to mind our own business . Sproul Jr. . Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.James 3:1. NO POPUPS! 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You are missing a key point here. By Gods grace, we have the truth that this lost world needs. And it may not. I have faith in the teaching of Pastor John and can see there are constant attacks on his ministry to compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He answered Julie very disrespectful when she reported on Macarthurs homes. You can also keep these digital messages forever by purchasing the conference collection from the Ligonier store. If Your Brother Sins Against You You are misunderstanding and misrepresenting what John has preached and written on the topic. Tom Gardiana The way the David Gray case was handled and is currently being handled indicates there has been no repentance. This story is extremely well documented so I am forced to accept the truth. Go ahead and say that you are going to stand by John MacArthur regardless of what he has done. True saving faith makes a difference in our lives as we seek to obey our Savior and Lord. Then be reinstalled as a member once again. They continually chose to support an abuser over the victims of that abuse, even after the abuser admitted to his own abuse AND was found guilty in a court of law. Now about your sins that may or may not need the police to review!!!! Ligonier Ministries is "the teaching fellowship of R.C. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Have you read the affidavit of another pastor who heard the tapes of these counseling sessions and verified Eileens account? I know that John MacArthurs ministry has blessed me for 50 years I have grown in my walk with the Lord I do not worship Man, but I pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ we are all fallible,, and in need of grace. Because John MacArthur is a Pastor, Teacher, Expositor, he is absolutely MORE accountable than anyone to give an explanation/apology especially on the magnitude of this issue with the Grays and what he did to Eileen Gray specifically. Today, Chris Larson and Nathan W. Bingham join Lee as he announces his retirement as host, shares favorite memories from his friendship with R.C. Your article is very one-sided. The Ligonier Conference 2021was titled Right Now Counts Forever. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I will miss his presents this year at Ligonier ministries conference. When the Bible was written all people had was the church. The Psalmist David used to pray for God to deal with his enemies, why dont people pray such prayers today? Tom, you could say the same defending pedophiles or rapists. As you seem so keen for Christians to hold one another accountable, why didnt GCC hold criminal abuser David Grays accountable? Our 2021 Winter Conference, commemorating the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, will celebrate Dr. Sproul's life and legacy, examining the central themes he proclaimed as he strove to help every Christian become a better theologian. Friday morning, The Roys Report noticed that MacArthur had been removed from the conference website and tweeted about the discovery. W. Robert Godfrey and Derek Thomas will lead us through James 1 against the breathtaking landscape of Alaska. Instead, it reads as gotcha journalism and bias on the site. When the NT was written and the rules of how to handle things via the church, there were no law enforcement agencys. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Sproul in 1971 to equip Christians to articulate what they believe, why they believe it,. Neither the church nor MacArthur has responded. GCC was given his confession. That is the part that is, as you put it, scary. You will meet these figures in ways you have never met them before. Thats why churches must prayerfully and carefully seek to have and maintain a regenerate membership. That is totally taking scripture out of context. He lumps everything together into one gospel called lordship salvation and tells you, if you havent laid down your life to christ and you still have sin in your life, then you should question your salvation. Another factor may be that she doesnt have the pressure to meet deadlines (doesnt have to churn out news product) so she can take the time needed for good reporting.
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