I bought the reference model, which in, in addition to the Delrin pads that decouple the glass platter from the subplatter on the Deluxe model, also has a sapphire bearing mounted in the business end of the spindle bearing. GrooveTracer Platters | Steve Hoffman Music Forums Groovetracer Reference Subplatter. The fact all 3 three are machined is the major upgrade over the stock . This jeweled bearing design only offered by Groovetracer® truly is a reference, and should you decide to purchase one, you can feel confident knowing you have chosen the best subplatter available for your Rega turntable. Counterweight Subplatters RP6 Subplatter Record weight Used Gear for sale Contact us / Ordering All Groovetracer® products are designed and manufactured to very close tolerances in order to enhance both the performance and appearance of your turntable. price: $29.99. I recently added the souther clever clamp which seemed to just sharpen the focus a tad, and the groovetracer subplatter which my wife called a "shocking" improvement. The spindle is time consumingly ground and polished from bearing grade stainless steel. (or, if the answer is 'C - None of the above', then what would you suggest?) I would start with the subplatter, which would make the most dramatic difference, followed by the speed box. PayPal please ad 3% Amplification: Primare i21Phono stage: Cambridge Audio 640pLoudspeakers: Lando LX-190 ClassicMusic: "Your Latest Trick", Dire Straits, Album "Brothers in A. Sub-platter & bearing upgrade for Pro-Ject Debut (all ... The Groovetracer® reference subplatter assembly for the RP6 not only features a main hub precision machined from solid billet aluminum, but in addition, a dampening disc is fixed to the bottom of the aluminum hub to eliminate any micro vibration or ringing between the three subplatter and glass platter contact points. RECORD CLAMPS. Groovetracer Delrin Platter & Reference Subplatter ... iii) 3 point Delrin contact (non resonant) between the subplatter and platter ensure positive interface and also minimizes vibration transfer. 6 posts. Will include the original Rega Elys 2 MM cartridge, with minimal hours on it, as I upgraded to a 2M black fairly soon after purchasing the TT.The dust cover is a bit cloudy and. That felt a little bit cheap for such a high end(ish) turntable. Reccomended for Rega RP1, RP2, P1, Planar 1 2016, or any Rega model that work with a 11.5 mm hub heigh subplatter and with a MDF/Fiber/Resin platter. No mat or any change in VTA is needed with the Groovetracer delrin platter. I think your proposed upgrades are all worthy. Initially I wanted groovetracer sub-platter but I live in UK and shopping plus tax from US makes it expensive upgrade. - On the other hand, beside the bearing design itself, two bearing characteristics would seem, at least conceptually, to matter a great deal: 1- The bearing's ability to transfer mechanical energy out of the arm tube and into the mass of the turntable I've heard the subplatter is a good match for Rega, keeps the Rega signature sound. GrooveTracer Delrin Platters are compatible with Rega Planar 3 (2016 model), Planar 2, 3, and 25, RP1, RP3, RP6, RP40, P1, P2, P3, P25, P3-24, and P5 turntables. Please login or register an accountlogin or register an account I recently installed a Groovetracer delrin platter (black) on my P5. After researching few sub-platter upgrades available in UK, I came across Iceni Audio Ltd. I've also read about better counterweights, one of them being Michell Tecnoweight to improve on the stock stainless steel counterweight on the P5. Also depending on the condition / lubrication on the current subplatter a subplatter upgrade can make a slight but noticeable upgrade. Our acclaimed Record Clamp and Feet Set together, in a bundle price special offer. They provide custom made turntables and upgrade parts for Rega. Groovetracer vs Tangospinner vs Fidelity Design ... brass premium pulley. A new Exact 2 cart, Groovetracer Reference Subplatter & Delrin platter, Michael Lim adjustable aluminum feet and a Michael Engineering Delrin record clamp. (The Zirconia ball can be sourced at the same aforementioned supply place on the cheap, but is the surface finish the same, what is the tolerance, etc,) I just love beating a dead horse! iii) 3 point Delrin contact (non resonant) between the subplatter and platter ensure positive interface and also minimizes vibration transfer. But a couple of months ago I got the Groovetracer RP6 Reference Subplatter , and now the turntable feels complete. I modded my Rega P3-24 with one. Now that I have the Groovetracer subplatter should I go with the regular one or stick with the Rega version? Rega P5/TTPSU Groovetracer Upgrades Price drop - Audio ...Groovetracer subplatters | Steve Hoffman Music Forums FEET SETS, VHL BEARING SLEEVES, DAMPER CAPS. I also added the Groovetracer acrylic platter, Technoweight, a double pulley, SRM Tech silent base. The Absolute Sound Magazine review Cartridge included for 250.00 more (Audio Technica 150 MLX). Don't push it in. When I had my RP3 I did the subplatter upgrade after I had hundreds of hours on the table. More musical and warm than the 2M Black with a tiny bit less detail. The new belt also has a more premium feel in the hand than the old belt, and the platter doesn't whine or squeak if I forget to spin it on start-up anymore. Groovetracer® subplatters are compatible with these turntable models: 2016 Planar 1, and 2, and 3, Rega Planar 2, 3, 25 & Rega P1, P2, P3, Rega P3-24, P5, Rega RP1, RP3, RP40. feet sets, vhl bearing sleeves, damper caps. Also Nad 533, Goldring, and Moth Alamo, 2016 planar 1,2 and 3. In the end I went for the Audio Technica AT618 Disc Stabilizer and I'm happy enough with that. Groovetracer® acrylic platters are compatible with these turntable models: Planar 2, 3, 25 and Rega P1, P2, P3, P25, P3-24, RP1, RP3, *RP6, RP40 and Rega P5. Plenty of use left! The sound is fast, dynamic, full, but not plump. More>> The Very Best-Performing and Best-Built Subplatter for Rega Turntables: GrooveTracer Reference Gives You Wider Soundstages, Sharper Focus, Lower Noise Floor, Additional Ambient Retrieval Instantly upgrade the sound of your Rega turntable by adding the GrooveTracer Reference, the very best-performing subplatter available for Rega designs. Iceni Audio Ltd Sub Platter. Really makes the stock one look like a joke when you're sitting looking at both before installing the new one. It really has transformed the sound of the P5 for the better. It is the failure of arm bearings that is why the arm may need to be readjusted over time. GrooveTracer Delrin Platters are also compatible with RP6 turntables, but require changing the Subplatter to complete the modification. Excellent upgrade. My dealer did it on his personal table, an older Rega P25 that likely had thousands of hours on it. There is a clear contrast between the delrin and the stock glass/felt. 1. Quick links. I also have the Groovetracer subplatter and counterweight. 3.990 kr «Det var for så vidt interessant med muligheten for AB-lytting på forskjellene, men det var strengt tatt ikke nødvendig. Also use the Michell record clamp (non-Rega version with the new subplatter) to gently snug the record to the platter. Groovetracer sub platter on RP6. Here is a short video of my Groovetracer upgrades I did for my Rega RP3.Ortofon 2M Bronzehttp://www.lpgear.com/product/OR2MBRONZE.htmlGroovetracer Reference . The Groovetracer® RP6 reference subplatter assembly not only features a main hub precision machined from solid billet aluminum, but in addition, a dampening disc is fixed to the bottom of the aluminum hub to eliminate any micro vibration or ringing between the three subplatter and glass platter contact points. UPGRADE KITS (Subplatter + ZrO2 bearing + pulley + belts), BELTS. Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:05 pm . PRICE: $94.99. VHL Bearing Sleeve. I'm sure the cheaper ones available now such as the Tangospinner are just as good. A very neutral presentation. Highly recommend the Groovetracer reference subplatter & Groovetracer delrin platter which I have on my P25. Amplification: Primare i21 Phono Stage: Cambridge Audio 640p Loudspeakers: Lando LX-190 Classic Album: Oscar Peterson Trio - We Get Requests Music/Track: You Look Good To Me, (Lefco-Wells, Jr.) / Track no. Noticeably smoother rotation, just starting to give it a listen. Rega is known for their tonearms. I'm interested in adding on one upgrade, and I've read great things about the Groovetracer subplatter and the Rega TT-PSU. Her snakker vi sjumilssteg! Other than that, time to consider investing in a new table. I have read about Groovetracer acrylic platters and subplatter Reference being an upgrade to the stock ones in the P5. v) extended length record spindle permits the use of my favorite tuning Acouslik Labor clamp. RECORD CLAMPS. Excellent condition, used for a couple of years on a Rega P3 before a turntable upgrade. Groovetracer® delrin platters are compatible with these turntable models: Planar 2, 3, 25 and Rega RP1, RP3, *RP6, RP40, P1, P2, P3, P25, P3-24, and Rega P5. My first upgrade to brand new Rega Planar 3. All in all a more "sophisticated" sound. platter is an essential upgrade and that's $100. AR 77-XB and Garrard Lab 80 both with GE VR 1000. When I had a P5, I replaced the subplatter with the Groovetracer. A longer than standard record spindle allows the fitting of record clamps to your turntable. Very noticeable upgrade. 08-04-2020 5:06am. iv) 0.0005″ - 0.001″ concentricity between the axle and hub greatly improves pitch control. Groovetracer® delrin platters are compatible with these turntable models: Planar 2, 3, 25 and Rega RP1, RP3, *RP6, RP40, P1, P2, P3, P25, and P3-24. Add a new Cartridge. The Groovetracer® reference subplatter assembly for the RP6 and Planar 6 not only features a main hub precision machined from solid billet aluminum, but in addition, a dampening disc is fixed to the bottom of the aluminum hub to eliminate any micro vibration or ringing between the three subplatter and glass platter contact points. Log in or register to post comments; Serious Inflation. I have an RP3. I did consider a clamp as I have the GT Delrin platter and I was a bit concerned about LPs slipping on it. I have a fraken Rega and the groovetracer reference subplatter and acrylic platter nice and quite and detailed I would recommend the subplatter before the platter. Also Nad 533, Goldring, and Moth Alamo, 2016 Planar 1,2,3,6, and Planar 8. Groovetracer Reference Subplatter. RECORD CLAMP + BOCCA FEET SET BUNDLE. Eigenvector and Benzion like this. As noted above, the GroveTracer Subplatter (and a number of the other items shown in the pictures) are a extra . *RP6 owners must also purchase a Groovetracer Subplatter in order to use the delrin platter. Rega RP1 w/RB202 tonearm, Groovetracer Reference subplatter, Groovetracer counterweight, 24 volt motor, TT-PSU, VTA spacer, 12mm glass platter, RP10 wool mat, Ortofon Quintet Blue. ALBUM: Stockfisch Records Vinyl CollectionDirect Metal Master Cut Vinyl Series - 180g Audiophile Vinyl PressingTRACK: B2 - Ewen Carruthers - ParisThis vinyl. Currently running Dynavector 10x5 and considering Dynavector 17D3, Sumiko Blackbird or Clearaudio Virtuoso Wood (with the Dynavector 20XL or XH in the back of my mind). Read the reviews and you will see what a great deal this is. I doubt there is significant sonic differences in the 3. (is this too graphic?) NAD C162, C272, Marantz PM5005. Not to mention that fact that, if quietness The Groovetracer reference subplatter is the BEST upgrade you can do to your Rega! Details can be found on the Groovetracer site. The stock plastic Rega subplatter is rather crude and not 100% true, even the "standard version" of the groovetracer gets you a superior subplatter and bearing. SandAndGlass, Aug 2, 2019 #6. It has noticeably more grip on my table's subplatter than the old belt, and it delivers more torque from the motor to the platter. Anybody using and can comment on Michael Lim's aluminium subplatter? Also, you put a few drops of oil in the bearing well and also smear a drop on the shaft of the sub-platter. Acoustic Research 3a, 6 As long as the Groovetracer subplatter spindle has the right tolerances (it does), that shouldn't be a problem. Comparing my Tangospinner sub-platter with the stock Rega sub-platter on my Planar 2. Below from Groovetracer on this fabulous upgrade: RP6 REFERENCE SU. iv) 0.0005″ - 0.001″ concentricity between the axle and hub greatly improves pitch control. Hello all, I'm just getting started on the vinyl path, and I recently received my RP1 with the performance package. UPGRADE KITS (Subplatter + ZrO2 bearing + pulley + belts), BELTS. My RP6 was upgraded with the Groovetracer subplatter and the white belt. 2. Highly recommend the Groovetracer reference subplatter & Groovetracer delrin platter which I have on my P25. Lots of people saying the Groovetracer Reference makes a big difference from the stock Rega sub-platter, and similarly that the Exact cart is a big jump from the Elys. Groovetracer RP6 Sub Platter and unused Original Rega RP 6 Glass Platter. Rega P3-24 Turntable for sale. Displaying superior wear life, even in poorly lubricated and/or dirty . If you own a P5, please indicate this when ordering. More steady, less noise, "blacker blacks". This is a direct drop in replacement for the two piece phenolic resin subplatter featured on the current RP6 turntable model. O pré de fono é um Cambridge Audio 640, amplificador integrado Primare i21 e caixas. (See note below for RP6 and Planar 6 compatibility) FEET SETS, VHL BEARING SLEEVES, DAMPER CAPS. Awesome setup. 1 side two Original Label: VERVE V6-8606; (P) 1965 . Also use the Michell record clamp (non-Rega version with the new subplatter) to gently snug the record to the platter. Top . upgrade kits (subplatter + zro2 bearing + pulley + belts), belts. Rega Groovetracer Upgrades RP6 Sub Platter & Rega RP6 Glass Platter for sale. Nad 533,C552,C555,C556, Goldring, and Moth Alamo Also compatible with the NEW P6 & P8. Delete. Having experienced significant hours with the original, i can say- the groovetracer made a noticeable difference. Note: Yes, the pictures show the table WITH the GrooveTracer SubPlatter installed, but it is NOT included at the asking/base advertised/listed price of the table. Groovetracer® delrin platters are compatible with these turntable models: Planar 2, 3, 25 and Rega RP1, RP3, *RP6, RP40, P1, P2, P3, P25, P3-24, and Rega P5. Rega RP1 / Groovetracer subplatter & platter / Ortofon 2M Blue 4:48. GrooveTracer Delrin Platters are compatible with Rega Planar 3 (2016 model), Planar 2, 3, and 25, RP1, RP3, RP6, RP40, P1, P2, P3, P25, P3-24, and P5 turntables. Hi Michael, many owner of former RP3's have tuned their turntable with the Groovetracer subplatter. Re: groovetracer subplatter - fitting question Post by Etnier » 13 Sep 2013 11:33 IIRC this is a known issue with some combinations of gear and Frank has pointed out that it's not really a concern. I upgraded my P3 with the groovetracer subplatter. The original subplatter is on the left, the Groovetracer replacement is on the right. Edit. Tangospinner official page, home of the acclaimed " Gus´ Subplatter " and the best upgrades por Rega turntables. Vesconite Hilube is a highly advanced thermopolymer in the Vesconite range, that combines low friction and low wear properties. You've nearly doubled the cost of the P2, and it's now dangerously close to the price of a P5 or a P3 with TT PSU. Sells f. Groovetracer® is manufacturing an upgraded subplatter assembly for the RP6. Hi I put the reference version on my P5 and found a significant drop in noise floor and was very happy with the money spent. If fit and finish are important to you, Groovetracer® delivers! Build quality is second to none. **The P5 platter is only available via special order. Each separate part of Groovetracer's Reference Subplatter—the bearing shaft, aluminum hub, and record spindle—is individually machined and inspected for accuracy, and then reinspected as a whole after final assembly. . *RP6 owners must also purchase one of these subplatters in order to use the delrin platter The stock/original Rega Subplattter and bearing are pictured separately. fr8train Post subject: Re: Glass vs. Acrylic vs. Delrin Platter. UPGRADE KIT FOR REGA TURNTABLES: SUBPLATTER, 33/45 PULLEY, 1 HQ BUTYL BELTS. I have a P5 and have upgraded it with a Groovetracer subplatter, Delrin platter, counterweight and Rega white belt. Given all of the great experience on these boards, what would you recommend? 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